tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32523001.post115647773259546991..comments2023-07-08T14:04:20.047-05:00Comments on La Vie Catholique - The Catholic Life: Galileo - Science and ReligionStephaniehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14847605396658754483noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32523001.post-1950830275611563482013-03-21T20:05:21.691-05:002013-03-21T20:05:21.691-05:00Galileo got into trouble with the Church because t...Galileo got into trouble with the Church because the Church believed that the interpretation of Scripture laid down by the Fathers of the Church could not be reinterpreted. Galileo was warned in 1616 with an injunction passed by Cardinal Robert Bellarmine. Galileo's arrogance only played a part in that he continued to support heliocentrism, which was accurate as compared to geocentrism, even after the injunction against him.<br /><br />Galileo's book may have clearly been in favor of the truth and against the Church, but this was not the charge. The charge was defending Copernicanism, or heliocentrism, after the injunction. <br /><br />So was the Church against science? Yes and no. It's true many priests and monks were scholars and made important discoveries. But the Church's rigidity on interpretation of scripture held science back, which is why important discoveries like the ones made by Galileo resulted in trials by the Inquisition. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32523001.post-1157574863290728042006-09-06T15:34:00.000-05:002006-09-06T15:34:00.000-05:00Regardless, what he says makes sense, and I think ...Regardless, what he says makes sense, and I think it's applicable here. Whether or not geocentricism or heliocentricism are true (and I would just rather not get into that, as I'm no scientist), it has no bearing on whether or not the scriptures are true. The Bible isn't a science book. As the famous quote goes concerning its purpose, the bible shows us how to go to Heaven, not the way the heavens go. So, let's just say it's not very high on my priority list to prove or disprove any scientific theory, as it doesn't affect my view of the scriptures as inerrant.<BR/><BR/>But thanks for stopping by =)Stephaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14847605396658754483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32523001.post-1157572382431472032006-09-06T14:53:00.000-05:002006-09-06T14:53:00.000-05:00St. Augustine was a geocentrist.He also accepted t...St. Augustine was a geocentrist.<BR/><BR/>He also accepted the notion of a "water above the firmament" because Scripture stated it was so. <BR/><BR/>St. Augustine is more of a support than a detriment to geocentrism.<BR/><BR/>Mark Wyatt<BR/>veritas-catholic.blogspot.comMark Wyatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11624130143770417948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32523001.post-1157495317577703692006-09-05T17:28:00.000-05:002006-09-05T17:28:00.000-05:00I'll let St. Augustine do the talking on this one ...I'll let St. Augustine do the talking on this one (from <A HREF="http://www.holycross.edu/departments/religiousstudies/alaffey/Augustine-Genesis.htm" REL="nofollow">The Literal Meaning of Genesis</A>):<BR/><BR/> <I>Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of this world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he holds to as being certain from reason and experience. Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking non-sense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of the faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men. If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books. For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support their position, although “they understand neither what they say nor the things about which they make assertion.”</I>Stephaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14847605396658754483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32523001.post-1157485381326397742006-09-05T14:43:00.000-05:002006-09-05T14:43:00.000-05:00Galileo was condemned because (Pope Urban VIII):"....Galileo was condemned because (Pope Urban VIII):<BR/><BR/>"...Whereas you, Galileo, son of the late Vincenzo Galilei, Florentine, aged seventy years, were in the year 1615 denounced to this Holy Office for holding as true the false doctrine taught by some that the Sun is the centre of the world and immovable and that the Earth moves, and also with a diurnal motion; for having disciples... ...and for replying to the objections from the Holy Scriptures, which from time to time were urged against it, by glossing the said Scriptures according to your own meaning: and whereas there was thereupon produced the copy of a document in the form of a letter, purporting to be written by you to one formerly your disciple, and in this divers propositions are set forth, following the position of Copernicus, which are contrary to the true sense and authority of Holy Scriptures..."<BR/><BR/>Read the real facts (on my blog), not modern apologies to bury the truth:<BR/><BR/>Geocentricity 101, Part I: Basic Principles <BR/>Geocentricity 101, Part II: Basic Physics <BR/>Geocentricity 101, Part III: Scriptural and Church Position <BR/>Geocentricity 101, Supplement: Discussion of Scripture and Church Position <BR/><BR/>Also the new book Galileo Was Wrong, Part I is the definitive source for the scientific arguments. There is a book review on my blog.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Mark Wyatt<BR/>Veritas-Catholic.blogpsot.comMark Wyatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11624130143770417948noreply@blogger.com